Mission Statement

[Zootella]

We actually need a mission statement. Not to be dilberty, but because events that we want to film at want to know who we are and what we're doing.

Here's what I wrote on the wiki:

The wiki space for LimeWire's new editorial team, charged with building community around LimeWire evangelizing the LimeWire open source software project through the wiki, forums, blog, and video.

For the video-specific statement, we could add something about telling the story of open source software development, creative commons artistic creation, peer-to-peer file sharing, and "the fight".

[jordan]

I think it's also pretty important to mention that we're trying to pave the way for more original content, less constrained even than our own. This probably one of the more exciting aspects to a certain group of people.

dilberty.

[BlackElvis]

It is also important that the our users would have access to the raw media for their own use. This would make our content less one sided and more of a dialogue.

[Zootella]

Yeah, we should probably have AVI download - bittorrent only.

[nathan]

If we really wanted to encourage filmmakers to edit our stuff we could torrent up the pure DV files. But that would be huge and a very niche market.

[BlackElvis]

LimeWire Video is a web exclusive video production team that produces short video projects (10 minute max) on a variety of subjects, with a special focus on Creative Commons, peer to peer technology, LimeWire, and open source programming. All of our videos will be distributed using the CC License, Attribution 2.5 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/) and will be provided in a wide array of digital formats.

This is a copy of what I sent the contact at Nextfest. Might be useful for the mission statement.

On the topic of raw dv files... I don't know how exactly the service would be provided (torrent sounds ideal to my layman's ear), but I agree with Nathan that it could be one of the more important aspects of what we are doing, especially as far as video is concerned.

[Zootella]

That looks good. Do we need the 10 min max clause? Is some of the footage we're getting restricted to not being placed in a longer piece?

[Zootella]

For raw DV - we could probably do that on a case-by-case basis. As in, we make a wiki page that says, "ask us for raw DV files!" Then, someone does, and we setup a dedicated p2p link to deliver the huge file.

[BlackElvis]

I don't think we need the 10 min max clause, but I think Jordan and I agree its hard to created online video that exceeds 10 min. I like the idea on how to provide raw dv files, as long as we make it well known they are available, it is fine that we have a more request oriented way of providing the files.

[ArneBab]

Why do you want to use a torrent instead of a magnet?

There are soem ways to make magnets more robust, so people can get the dv-files with LimeWire (which sounds more fitting when making films with LimeWire in the name)

Magnet Making Guide (http://basis.gnufu.net/gnufu/index.php/MagnetMakingGuide)

[Lord of the Rings]

Presumably that means LW's capabilities are going to expanded right? I was under the impression that up to now there was a 2 or 4 GB limit on files for sharing. Even flat 4 GB is less than 20 mins of 'standard' DV. (I did test out max file size accepted for sharing some time back but can't remember what it was - last year I think.)

I guess you could break them into parts. :D ;)

[Zootella]

The Gnutella protocol itself imposes that limit - the file size is addressed by 4 bytes. The Gnutella development community as a whole needs to come together to solve this problem - it will probably be by putting 0 as the file size, and then having the actual size in 8 bytes in the GGEP block. We probably won't change the protocol for limewire video, though. With current compressed formats like Windows Media and QuickTime, you can get an hour of high quality video in around a GB. Excellent point - thanks for posting.

[ArneBab]

It's not only about LimeWire Video. It is about me wanting to share the free DVD "say NO to nazis".

And iirc, there are a few clients out there, which already share files bigger than 4GB, but I don't remember which way it is managed.

Maybe it would be possible to make the solution lasting thhis time (as I'm sure that petabyte will be a standard-size one day and Gnutella should be prepared for that). Just a standard way to extend the size again and again similar to Unicode.