Has the new website been scrapped?

[Angry Pirate]

I remember about two months ago limewire.com got a nice makeover with a cool new layout. But within a day or two it was gone. I believe it was Sam who said the new website would be back when it was done but it's been an awful long time. So has limewire.com decided not to change the look or are they still planning on using the new layout? Thanks.

[Sam]

A new one is coming -- we're just testing it to make sure it's effective.

[Angry Pirate]

Oh ok. I think the new website looks way beter then then this current one so that is good news. Keep up all the great work.

[Sam]

We redesigned it a bit. You can preview it (and provide feedback here if you want!) at http://www.limewire.com/new . (Just remember that it's still undergoing some construction / tweaking / changing.)

[Only A Hobo]

Sam It has a nice look, but the wording still seems much the same. My particular moan is about

"How often will I be charged?

LimeWire PRO is a one-time purchase; you will never be charged again."

also " Buying LimeWire PRO is a one-time purchase; there is nothing to cancel, no subscription or membership, and no recurring fees."

( http://www.limewire.com/new/english/content/support/billing.php#q5 )

and similar statements. which are not accurate. This seems like a good time to get it just perfect :)

[Sam]

Can you clarify how those statements aren't accurate? Once you purchase LimeWire PRO, we will never charge you again (unless you purchase it again). People are concerned that they're subscribing to something and they might incur repeated charges without their involvement. We're trying to say that isn't going to happen.

[Only A Hobo]

Well it certainly implies that if you pay once you will be entitled to LW pro for life. There have been a number of problems on the Gnutella forums with people who have for instance lost their pro in a crash, and cannot get it back, or may not have used it for several months and want to get a new version of pro and find the actually have to pay again. There is a recurring payment of 14.50 (reduced rate) which must be made every 6-8 months, and whilst I and many users have no problem with that, the wording on the site does not make it atall clear. I have always felt that in Britain, the Trades description people would say that it meant "for life"

"Buying Limewire pro for $18.88 entitles you to six months of updates and e-mail support, thereafter for a reduced payment for loyal customers will ensure continued updated and support" might be a more accurate way to put it imo :)

[garbagefan2]

I like that new LimeWire one better than the other new one. :) . Can I download from the new one?

[Only A Hobo]

Sure, I can't see any problem. Perhaps you should double check that you get 4.12.4

[Angry Pirate]

I saw it yestersday and I like the new look. But today I checked it again and the download page comparison graph is changed. They both look better then the old limewire comparison graph but I liked how the pro side was green and the basic was gray, it was a cool contrast. Now it's mainly all white and just a one column has a fading light blue from top to bottom. I do like the get turbo charged with the box that was added above it though. Now you may think this is little minor stuff that doesn't matter rather then wording like Only A Hobo mentioned. But to be honest I rarely read the site. I am more excited about seeing a cool sleek looking website everytime I visit to download or go on the forums. Oh and I also really like the navigation buttons rather then just words for download, features etc. it just looks more professional. Well there's my feedback so far you guys have excellent web designers.

[ajfischler]

I'm one of the few people actually working on making these web site changes, and I'd like to thank you all for your feedback. Believe me when I say that we'll listen to all suggestions we get. It's nice to have actual user comments to back up your decisions.

Oh, and expect things to change around a bit more as we continue to tweak the beasts known as Limewire.com and Limewire.org.

[Angry Pirate]

The background change from black to white is really good it brightens up the whole site and looks good. The only criticism I can find on the whole site right now is at the home page. It's not even a problem rather it's more like unnecesary. What I mean is the home page has the Safe File Sharing link on the bottom left hand side. Then right below it in the middle of the dark gray strip there is About Using P2P Safely. Both these links take you to the same place. Although this isn't a problem by any means, I was thinking instead of having a repetitive link you could use that space to link to a different page. Maybe you did it on purpose I don't know I was just pointing it out. Any way great work ajfischler I am very impressed with the progress made since the initial release that had blue sun rays, a sideways angled screenshot and a huge light green download button.

[Sam]

Those safe p2p links are because the FTC asked us to make it very clear. Better safe than sorry. :)

[Angry Pirate]

Ok I see the FTC makes you have the link twice. Man when are they going to learn that LimeWire is not responsible for how people all over the world use their software. It would be like holding the gun manufacturers responsible when one of their customers kills somone with their gun. Absolutely ridiculous!

[Sam]

I've got no problem with making sure people are using it safely. A redundant link here or there in the name of safety is a good thing.

[Only A Hobo]

Hi ajfischler ..Great Job... but.. Am I missing something, or is there no where on the payment page if you have "already bought pro". I couldn't see anywhere....

[Only A Hobo]

I like that new LimeWire one better than the other new one. :) . Can I download from the new one?

It has been noticed that download requests are often being re-directed to download.com, at least for windows, and they are still offering 4.12.3.

This is happening from the new and the old site. I wasn't sure if anyone was aware of this :)

See http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?t=59443

[Sam]

Yup, Hobo -- We redirect to download.com purposely every so often.

[Only A Hobo]

That's cool Sam, I expected as much, but it seems they are still offering 4.12.3, and not 4.12.4 ...

[Sam]

It's the right version, they're just slow. We try to tell them to label it as 4.12 (with no service release #) but they don't always listen.

[Only A Hobo]

Thanks Sam :)

[Angry Pirate]

The new homepage looks nice. Although it does push the PRO version very strongly it is still good improvement.

[Sam]

Ya, the PRO pushing may be a bit over the top. We still want people to use it for free. We'll see how it works out.

[Only A Hobo]

Yup, Hobo -- We redirect to download.com purposely every so often.

I was a little dubious too about download.com's reputation, which is ... er changeable, I have noticed. Whether or not the Limewire version(s) coming from there are good or not, it is a site that is not very well regarded.

see http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?t=59501 Posted yesterday.

Should Limewire be associated with them?

[garbagefan2]

They officially put the new site up. But I can't see the already baught pro link. Good thing I saved it in my bookmark. Can you change the download page too?

[spearson]

Is the new site actually up?

When I go to http://www.limewire.com it takes me to the old site.

Thanks.

[Angry Pirate]

Sometimes it is. Sometimes it's not. It all depends on the day. And when it is up it has different homepages. Sometimes it is the basic download now page and others it the PRO pushing one. This is because the designers are working very hard on it to make a great new website. It will be cool when it's done because it way better then the old one. But until then you can still check out the tweaks at limewire.com/new

[spearson]

I've seen the new website and I think it looks a lot better then the current one.

I'm looking forward to seeing the completed version when it goes up Live. :D

[Lord of the Rings]

Only A Hobo beat me to making the point by a week, but isn't there other alternatives to download.com ? There are lots of sites that host legitimate programs such as versiontracker, etc. And download.com unfortunately host scam versions, etc. Just search limewire on their site using their search function & see what you end up with. I noticed that well over a year ago.

Edit: It was less than a year ago I noticed it. My post about it was in January. here (http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?t=51440&highlight=limewire+gold). They host scam versions of many different types of programs! IMHO I would suggest it would be in LW's best interests not to be hosted at the same site as scam versions of programs, be they LW or other.

[Lord of the Rings]

I went back to downld.com & searched LW. Perhaps they have thrown out the scam versions that were being listed. As I recall there were quite a few. (excluding the google ads)

FreeWire, LemonWire ... but they're free. But there's also k-lite & some others if you search P2P on their site. k-lite not being free of course.

[roblim]

I have looked at the new site, and I love the looks.
Regarding the wording about the purchase of LW Pro, it is clear and concise. Maybe adding the fact that the purchase includes free updates for 6 months will help people who jump to conclusions understand that they did NOT purchase free updates for life.
That's my 2 cents worth ;)