Limewire is illegal

[Forerunnerrocker]

Woot its true

[Only A Hobo]

"A fast sports car is Illegal" would presumably be your view concerning drivers who exceed the speed limit.

Limewire, Fast Cars, Guns, Kitchen knives, and almost anything else you care to mention, can be used illegally. NOT ONE OF THEM IS ILLEGAL ..Well Guns are in a lot of places, but I think I have made my point. Don't you?

[Forerunnerrocker]

hahaha, h,ok what are you using limewire for? Downloading music, whats that called? Piracy, whats piracy? Its ILLEGAL.

[Only A Hobo]

You originally stated that Limewire was illegal. I simply retorted that Limewire is not illegal. Neither are mini disc recorders, mp3 players, cassette recorders, CD Burners, Radios, Computers, or the world wide web.

So unless you have a constructive argument to back up what you say, the subject is, for me, closed.

We all know that Limewire states on it's download page
>"Downloading LimeWire BASIC does not constitute a license for obtaining >or distributing unauthorized material.

>Please do not download LimeWire BASIC if you intend to use it to infringe >copyright."

and users agree "I will not use LimeWire BASIC for copyright infringement."

You are saying nothing we don't know already.


As it happens I do use Limewire (only, I might add, very occasionally) for music, but the music concerned is not available commercially and so I'm not doing the wretched RIAA out of their dues. I have no idea how many albums, both vinyl and CD I own, but I have a slight feeling that it may well be more than you... and no I'm not going to compare notes. I made my feelings clear in reply to your other post.

[billy beef]

who cares dude

[Lord of the Rings]

The Gnutella network was not designed for the sharing of copyright material. Just because some people choose to do so doesn't make the program illegal (keep in mind LimeWire is just one of many gnutella programs.) As Only A Hobo made the point, just because someone runs someone over with their car doesn't mean cars are illegal. The question is how it's used. It's a user problem & responsibility!

[EternallyFadingBeauty]

It's not illegal, so long as it's used right.

Simple and sweet.

[Seith]

It's not Illegal, you* just use it for illegal things :> Which, when downloading - and installing - you agree not to, so YOU* are the one breaking the law.

Seith

*You = anyone who has ever downloaded copyrighted material using Limewire :)

[MrPSPFreak]

Yeah the program isnt illegal just downloading music is. Hey and I was just wondering why they put the free music on there if they have the chance of being sued?

[LimeWire Freak]

I could personally careless whether or not LimeWire is illegal. The RIAA can kick, shout, cry, scratch their a$$es and get glad if they want, but there's ALWAYS gonna be free downloads of software programs available and people are ALWAYS gonna commit copyright infringement. The bottom line is that you're not gonna stop anyone from stealing, so taking people to court and having them jailed for this is rather pointless. People have been doing that since the beginning of time. If the Recording Instrusty A$$*oles of America keeps their little moneymaking racket up, they're gonna be in courts as long as they're alive and kicking. Those overpaid idioits can kiss my freakin' grits. I can do whatever I want. I love LimeWire b/c you can find more stuff up there than you can any other program. Besides, I'm too poor to legally do this and go to the record store over such foolishness as spending my hard-earned money on a record 'just because' it has only one or two pitiful songs up there that I like. Music's my passion, but I don't love it THAT much. Get REAL, people. I only go to the store and purchase a whole album or movie when 1) I REALLY like it and 2) I like most of the songs on the album.

[rxbbx]

It's not illegal, so long as it's used right.

I agree with EternallyFadingBeauty.. everyone has his own responsibility in how he uses it.

Greets

[Rockhead]

I don't want to get on my high horse about this, i used to work for one of the Big 5 Record Companies, and wrote a master's degree thesis on this. The simple truth is that by making the downloading of music illegal, the recording industry drives it underground. They also fail to realize that the majority of us will buy an album if we really enjoy a track. I myself have downloaded tracks on numerous occasions, and if I really enjoy what I hear, I buy the album. If it is rubbish, then I don't see why I should waste a tenner for an inferior product. It really is up to the artists and companies to stop releasing bad albums and one-hit wonders

[interpolarity]

I could personally careless whether or not LimeWire is illegal. The RIAA can kick, shout, cry, scratch their a$$es and get glad if they want, but there's ALWAYS gonna be free downloads of software programs available and people are ALWAYS gonna commit copyright infringement. The bottom line is that you're not gonna stop anyone from stealing, so taking people to court and having them jailed for this is rather pointless. People have been doing that since the beginning of time. If the Recording Instrusty A$$*oles of America keeps their little moneymaking racket up, they're gonna be in courts as long as they're alive and kicking. Those overpaid idioits can kiss my freakin' grits. I can do whatever I want. I love LimeWire b/c you can find more stuff up there than you can any other program. Besides, I'm too poor to legally do this and go to the record store over such foolishness as spending my hard-earned money on a record 'just because' it has only one or two pitiful songs up there that I like. Music's my passion, but I don't love it THAT much. Get REAL, people. I only go to the store and purchase a whole album or movie when 1) I REALLY like it and 2) I like most of the songs on the album.



You are my HERO!!!!!

[WyzzardUSA]

Woot its true

Limewire is not illegal. Limewire is a software program that enables individuals to connect to a peer-to-peer sharing network. Period. Nothing illegal about that.

And Limewire itself, as a company, offers NO files for download, other than it's own Limewire software. And even THAT is done on the Limewire website, NOT through the network.

And if you really want to split hairs, OFFERING copyrighted content on a P2P network in and of itself is not illegal.........only the DOWNLOADING of such material is illegal.....just check all the wording in the many RIAA lawsuits.

So, go check your facts before you again post such rubbish.

And, BTW, if you think it's so bad, what are you doing in a Limewire Forum.....other than intentionally causing trouble and jacking people up ?

[Mitchell Pomerance]

I am a first time user/....a Fish, I guess is the right word for it...but, as a Para-Legal who does extensive amounts of research before delving into a topic...I have to say that File Sharing by itself is not illegal...it is how it is used that makes it illegal in some circumstances...I just downloaded this program and I am attempting to use it...to file share...any suggestions would be extremely helpful. Thanks in advance!!!!!

[SeanyCache]

Actually in canada downloading isnt illeagel...and my dad and my aunt are both high ranking cops and my dad always asks me to download music off limewire for him lmao

[Judge Zargabaath]

And Limewire itself, as a company, offers NO files for download, other than it's own Limewire software. And even THAT is done on the Limewire website, NOT through the network.

Actually now it is done through the network..for some reason I don't know.

You have questions about this, go ask zab.

[grandiddy]

If only one percent of the U.S. has most of the money, then I'm all for the rest of us doing all we can to beat them at their own game. The rich get richer, the smart get smarter.

[grandiddy]

car insurance, taxes for schools that my kids don't attend, phone charges, legal **** sharks (cash for checks) it's all about the money, limewire is our revenge. Just because you are poor doesn't mean you're not important.

[Underslunky]

Jesus somebody certainly opened up the flood gates here didnt they! To be honest I only download stuff I absolutely know I cant get on CD. I have found a lot of old 70s prog stuff which has been ripped off original vinyl so I kind of see it as public domain (dont think it legal just stating my position) If I could get it on Cd from the store I would cos I hate having CDR versions of albums!

[tankya01]

Enough about the illegal or not.....someone please tell me how to download the music....thank you!

[Aaron.Walkhouse]

The instructions are still where they always were.
Click on the "Support" link at the top of this page.

[Judge Zargabaath]

Enough about the illegal or not.....someone please tell me how to download the music....thank you!

err i think that is a little offtopic.

[Boofa]

Hello. My first time here or anywhere. I heard tell that its not actually illegal to download music, only to upload it, (myself, I don't know.)....Vicious circle?? Don't bite, I'm just putting in my 2 bobs worth. Take what you want now, pay for it later... I think there might be somethin in that for all of us. :)

[Boofa]

Well there's my first "you learn something new every day" of the morning. We're all paddling up the creek then aren't we? Have fun doing it! ;)

[Aaron.Walkhouse]

Here in Canada it's legal to download any copyrighted content for private use. This
may also be true in Australia, though american MAFIAA (http://www.mafiaa.org) bribe money has been flowing down
there for a while. ;]

[Boofa]

Some people still don't care.

Could that be why we are all still here?? This is all a big $$ thing. Stuff it.... They made it all for my listening pleasure and I will have it (you can too). They make enough, surely they don't mind making a donation here and there. I reckon there'd be a loophole somewhere, they can claim it as a tax deduction.

[Boofa]

Errr isn't that why everyone here hates the RIAA and the MPAA? I do.

RIAA...MPAA???... Don't know who or what, not sure I care. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. One way or another, I think we all agree here.

[Boofa]

Ignorance IS bliss when it comes to the MAFIAA/MPAA/RIAA.

Who's a happy girl then??!!! :D

[Judge Zargabaath]

Who's a happy girl then??!!! :D

LOL

I would absolutely love to give them a nice old

http://www3.telus.net/Aaron_Walkhouse/THU-WHACKK.PNG

http://www3.telus.net/Aaron_Walkhouse/Axeman.JPG

[Boofa]

Oooh... Can I watch?? Looks good to me. You can be Judge, I'll be Jury!! Give 'em what for. Ha Ha.

[Judge Zargabaath]

Oooh... Can I watch?? Looks good to me. You can be Judge, I'll be Jury!! Give 'em what for. Ha Ha.

lol btw you ever seen this?

http://www3.telus.net/Aaron_Walkhouse/Oh%20great.PNG

IT's soo funny lol.

http://www3.telus.net/Aaron_Walkhouse/thepolicebay9qz.gif

LOLUMS!!!

This is you lol

http://www3.telus.net/Aaron_Walkhouse/king_conan.jpg

[Boofa]

R R R. Oh stuff!!! We could take over the world!

[Judge Zargabaath]

R R R. Oh stuff!!! We could take over the world!

LOL!!!http://www3.telus.net/Aaron_Walkhouse/ajax.PNG

[Boofa]

Off with my head....

[misshady7]

and? :rolleyes: dont use it then if it 'offends' you

[crow]

Is anyone following the case in Mpls Minn?

How did they find her and how can they find others. How do you avoid such personal privacy intrusions? :confused:

[misshady7]

hahahahaha *falls off chair*

[Judge Zargabaath]

From now on anyone who gets banned I'll post that for them.

[crow]

so is sodimy so you better stop doing it.

[crow]

I agree with that completely.

Music Groups think they are Gods.

[crow]

The Gnutella network was not designed for the sharing of copyright material. Just because some people choose to do so doesn't make the program illegal (keep in mind LimeWire is just one of many gnutella programs.) As Only A Hobo made the point, just because someone runs someone over with their car doesn't mean cars are illegal. The question is how it's used. It's a user problem & responsibility!


So tell me, what is the best way to use it? And what was it really intended for if we can't share music and such? :confused:

[shaunam]

Okay, Newbie here... I was watching the news about a lady getting a hefty fine for downloading music... I use LW Basic, I share my files & listen to music only for myself. I do not sell anything. Is this legal or illegal???
Am I right or wrong about the definition of copyright infringement... anyone making money off of a copyrighted song.Just wanting to know if I am doing anything wrong or illeagal.:confused:

[Boofa]

Has anyone ever been done for selling their old tapes, records, cd's, etc in garage sales or online auctions? Is this really so different?? You get a few bob for doing that at least. Where is the profit here??

[Boofa]

As for music groups thinking they're Gods..... Is it any bloody wonder with the way 3/4 of the fans carry on, not to mention the bloody twits behind the cameras selling photos for thousands of $$$'s???? Thats gotta stuff with your head somewhere. :rolleyes:

[Earthbonz]

I agree that it isn't right to download music to use w/out paying for it but honestly, w/out Limewire, I wouldn't remember 90% of the music I love. This is the best thing for promoting music since radio (which doesn't cost me a dime to listen to). It allows me to preview music to make sure it's the song I was thinking of and compile a list of songs for future purchase that I, otherwise, NEVER would. It seems to me that the music industry exec's should get with the program instead of lashing out at the consumer or the result may be artists going direct to us and cutting all these "EXECUTIVES" out of their hardly earned income.

[Only A Hobo]

It seems to me that the music industry exec's should get with the program instead of lashing out at the consumer or the result may be artists going direct to us and cutting all these "EXECUTIVES" out of their hardly earned income.

Funny you should mention that. Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails and The Charlatans are going a big way to doing just that.
The Radiohead story: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/10/07/ccmusic107.xml

[Kath]

Very interesting read Hobo.. thanks :)