Child Porn

[DAMON]

I really love lime wire, but am concerned over the child porn! My bestfriends 5 yr. old daughter was kidnapped, raped, and murdered by one of these sick perverts! WHAT IS LIME WIRE DOING ABOUT THIS! IF THEY CAN'T STOP IT I BET THE FEDS COULD!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Lord of the Rings]

Quality of Content on the Network (click on link) (http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17321&perpage=15&pagenumber=12=&postid=93195#post93195)

Should we ban cars because people get killed by them. Should we ban violent movies or any movie that has any type of dangerous weapon or the cop shows. LimeWire is just one program that uses the Gnutella network. There are many more. If you want to discuss this topic, it's already been discussed many times on the gnutella forums. http://www.gnutellaforums.com/

[WyzzardUSA]

I really love lime wire, but am concerned over the child porn! My bestfriends 5 yr. old daughter was kidnapped, raped, and murdered by one of these sick perverts! WHAT IS LIME WIRE DOING ABOUT THIS! IF THEY CAN'T STOP IT I BET THE FEDS COULD!:mad: :mad: :mad:

I am sorry this happened to the girl.

You ask what is being done. Many are trying to do things.....people like the federal goverment, and the RIAA.....they want to do something.......not to help other girls.....not to stop porn......they could not care less about that......what they want is CONTROL over the internet....and posts and attitudes like yours will give that to them

Right now, the internet is free......the last place in the world that is truly free.........oh, yes, you pay your ISP, but that is for access.......the internet itself is free.....if you want your heavy-handed government to have the leverage to get legislation enacted so they can have domain/authority over the internet, then keep making these sorts of posts....and one day soon you will find that they will TELL you what sorts of posts you can make....and probably you will also be charged extra to do so, and be charged for emails as you are charged for sending a letter...............

Do you really want that?

You can help stop porn on the internet by NOT downloading it, by NOT talking about it(word of mouth is the best advertising, you know, so if we don't mention where the porn is or who has it, perhaps their links/files will simply die, eventually), and by reporting as available to the SITE (not the government) the people purveying porn......

As to Limewire, block the host, so no one on your pc ever sees it again.

I understand that porn is a problem to some folks, and I won't take issue with that. But porn was here, and was widely distributed, long before the internet came about. And most likely, it will be here long after you and I are long gone.

The important thing is to find ways to deal with it that DON'T involve the government, so the internet can remain free.

[Burgersoft777]

I really love lime wire, but am concerned over the child porn! My bestfriends 5 yr. old daughter was kidnapped, raped, and murdered by one of these sick perverts! WHAT IS LIME WIRE DOING ABOUT THIS! IF THEY CAN'T STOP IT I BET THE FEDS COULD!:mad: :mad: :mad:

Limewire is currently a scandal...a small number of users are maintaining a large amount of child porn.:confused: What is even more shocking is that a few users are deliberately uploading files which appear to be normal content but contains CP. No thanks...there must be a way to close these creeps down. We need this sorted.In the meantime any sensible person will shun the obvious files and hope to not bump into the evil *******s contribution to our lives.

[Burgersoft777]

Quality of Content on the Network (click on link) (http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17321&perpage=15&pagenumber=12=&postid=93195#post93195)

Should we ban cars because people get killed by them. Should we ban violent movies or any movie that has any type of dangerous weapon or the cop shows. LimeWire is just one program that uses the Gnutella network. There are many more. If you want to discuss this topic, it's already been discussed many times on the gnutella forums. http://www.gnutellaforums.com/

If we had any moral fiber Left we would understand that there is a difference between your apologist acceptance of the current mess we are making of ourselves and child pornography.

[bewitchedsoul]

So what then can be done about it? How do we report the child porn we see when searching for a song or movie? How do we even tell where it is coming from????
I too am really sick of seeing this and not being able to do anything about it. I've used words to block out offending searches, but that only hides the problem, it doesnt fix it.:mad:

[Kath]

As previously mentioned by another member, you can report such things here..... http://www.iwf.org.uk/

[Lord of the Rings]

If we had any moral fiber Left we would understand that there is a difference between your apologist acceptance of the current mess we are making of ourselves and child pornography.If you don't like it then don't download it. lol :D There's places to complain about certain users if they harbor & share such material as Kath said. There's links to various countries to complain to at the gnutella forums (ie: the link gives links to specific authorities per country involved.) Whilst I support the concept of sharing various topics, I don't support CP in any shape or form whatsoever: demand creates a need for larger supply, so eliminating supply ...

[bewitchedsoul]

As previously mentioned by another member, you can report such things here..... http://www.iwf.org.uk/
I know there are places to report it, thankyou for the link...however what I am asking, is HOW? How do we know where the offending material is coming from? Limewire does not give us access to that info it seems. How do we tell the ADDRESS of the person with the child porn?

[tyciol]

One thing you can do, at least with LimeWire, is right-click on the file and go 'Browse Host'.

What this does, is it opens a new search, and in the search is entered the Host of the file's IP address. I'm not sure what occurs with multiple hosts since I don't even know how to tell the difference. Anyway, in a lot of cases 'Browse Host' fails but it should still display an error message with the full IP for you to copy. I think you have to do it manually though, like call up notepad and eyeball it, since I can't figure how to C&P the number directly. So make sure you get it right :)

If Browse Host does succeed, it would show you other files they are sharing, so it could be shocking if this person is a deviant who collects the material. This can be useful however in discerning whether or not it is a malcontent distributor of the material (because they will have a large collection of it) or whether they are a person in the middle of a partial download or who downloaded the material by accident or something.

This even works in cases of mislabeled content, because if someone has a bad file labeled as something innocent, they may have downloaded it unawares and not watched it yet. If however, the file is in the company of a lot of files of that nature, or files which are obviously named as illegal things, then you know they probably have watched it, or know what the content it, and are maliciously seeding it to entrap people. These are definately people whose IPs should be reported. This is because they are not only sharing illegal content, but they are attempting to put it in the folders of people who do not desire to see it. This can not only entrap law-abiding people, but if the content is labeled as something a child is interested in, it could expose them to that material as well when doing an innocent search for some kind of cartoon or sporting event.

So you can write down the IP address that shows up in the search and send it to the IWF.

The IWF is a cool site but the problem is that their form takes a long time to fill out. They need to come up with a faster method, like where you can just drop in IP addresses. Part of it is filling out stuff like 'date of incident'. It would be easier if they improved their scripts to do things like automatically fill out the date.

There's honestly so much bad material in P2P networks that you need something very efficient to report a number that would make any difference.

Another problem is that a lot of seeders on these networks are I think police who are attempting to sting/entrap anyone who downloads the files. So probably a lot of these that get reported to IWF get thrown out once the IWF sends them to police and they recognize their own IPs.

[bewitchedsoul]

Thankyou Tyciol :)

[jwh2323]

well hopefully the police catch a lot of these sick people would love to see a clean limewire but with all of the sick pervs on the net these days i doubt that will happen

[tyciol]

No problem BWS. I'm hoping the police actually ignore people who download things, and rather, request they co-operate with investigations to track down the person actually producing the content (and thus, doing illegal things with minors) since that would actually be isolating the criminals, and not just people who watch criminals' exploits.

The thought of people getting off watching abuse or **** freaks me out too, but apparently viewing videos of that happening to adults, or even murder, is legal, so it seems sort of strange to have a special scenario here. Letting a vid circulate is a way for people to help identify lawbreakers on camera.

[darzr]

I really love lime wire, but am concerned over the child porn! My bestfriends 5 yr. old daughter was kidnapped, raped, and murdered by one of these sick perverts! WHAT IS LIME WIRE DOING ABOUT THIS! IF THEY CAN'T STOP IT I BET THE FEDS COULD!:mad: :mad: :mad:
i think ur to ****ing right its knacker wat some people are doing and wats worse ther getting enjoyment outa this stuff:mad: :ma

[blackheart]

I do hate porn all together, much less child porn.
I'm sorry that happened, to any child, may the Lord heal her spirit and emotions.
When people are taught early in life that they are nothing but evolved animals then things like this follows in greater numbers then if they are taught that they were created in the image of God.
I do not think the problem lies with Lime Wire, but rather with the education we as a nation give to our kids. It is Darwinism played out in the worse way.

[14dotsyo]

perhaps people just aren't being smart. If you see music that's like 300 mb, it's obviously porn. If you see the new harry potter movie (example) that's only 1040 kb, it's obviously porn. Be smart with your file sizes, I haven't gotten any child porn at all.

And you guys are mistaken, child porn hosters aren't doing it cause they're crazy perverts, they're doing it to quickly spread their malware.



Getting rid of them is simple. Search child porn in limewire, browse host, get their ip's, send it to the Po-lice. Easy?

[14dotsyo]

I do hate porn all together, much less child porn.
I'm sorry that happened, to any child, may the Lord heal her spirit and emotions.
When people are taught early in life that they are nothing but evolved animals then things like this follows in greater numbers then if they are taught that they were created in the image of God.
I do not think the problem lies with Lime Wire, but rather with the education we as a nation give to our kids. It is Darwinism played out in the worse way.


Okay not to burst your bubble, but God doesn't have anything to do with child pornography

[tyciol]

after searching for bratz for my daughter of all things a childrens show!!! i get those resolts, two days ago i came across it by mistake for the first time ever!!! im beside myself knowing these creeps are using this programe for such a thing, if i were new to the download programe i would not ove known to check bitzi these people rate the files for other sickos to check on so we can also report the user name to the authorities if you come across them in the bitzi site with the power of the people on the net WE CAN AND WILL WEED THEM OUT JUST REPORT TO THE AUTHORITIES IN YOUR REAGON if your unshure who to tell call the local police and im shure they will have no problems directing you in the right way
regards tash
You're a parent? Eugh. I can understand why your daughter likes Bratz. It glorfies being a ditz and a brat. You can't exactly blame them when raised by this...

I do hate porn all together, much less child porn.
I'm sorry that happened, to any child, may the Lord heal her spirit and emotions.
When people are taught early in life that they are nothing but evolved animals then things like this follows in greater numbers then if they are taught that they were created in the image of God.
I do not think the problem lies with Lime Wire, but rather with the education we as a nation give to our kids. It is Darwinism played out in the worse way.Hm, well I don't hate all porn, there's nothing inherantly harmful about pornography. Like anything, it has its ups and downs. I have to disagree with your theory (and it's really offtopic and preachy) because if you research, there is plenty of *** abuse going on within religions, theisms, and very much within Christianity. If you were to research the 'children of god' also nicknamed 'x-family' you'd see that they use Jesus faith to brainwash women and children into becoming their slaves. While I agree LimeWire's not the problem, how exactly does how kids are educated have to do with the problem of illegal child porn that gets seeded on LimeWire by information terrorists?

perhaps people just aren't being smart. If you see music that's like 300 mb, it's obviously porn. If you see the new harry potter movie (example) that's only 1040 kb, it's obviously porn. Be smart with your file sizes, I haven't gotten any child porn at all.

And you guys are mistaken, child porn hosters aren't doing it cause they're crazy perverts, they're doing it to quickly spread their malware.

Getting rid of them is simple. Search child porn in limewire, browse host, get their ip's, send it to the Po-lice. Easy?
Not everything is going to have an obvious difference in file size to tip you off. I'm not sure I agree either, I don't think there's any good reason to assume all child pornography files (or things labelled as it) would contain malware. Certainly, labelling non-CP files as CP and having a virus in them certainly seems like a good way to discourage the ******* and downloading of it.

If you'd read the entire thread, you'd know that searching CP-related terms is not enough to stop everyone. It's technically not illegal at all to label a file with things that imply CP like "10yo lay" or something, so long as there's no actual pornography in the file. What this means is that the police would get spammed with a lot of false leads. The only way to find out whether or not it is would be to actually view the file, and that would make you a criminal too.

You'd also know that searching the terms would not deal with the problem of people who label CP files as something innocent. The only way you'd find em is by stumbling on them, and by the time you've viewed the file, since you're no longer downloading it, the name of the person you got it from will no longer be present. It's not like the previous tactic where you could record it beforehand in preparation.

I guess one solution would be to try and find the file again and find the seeders. They may not be the exact people who gave it to you, but if they're hosting the file, it's a good reason to check any shared directories to see if they have other suspicious stuff.

The problem with relying on that is most people with stuff like that aren't going to make their shared folders available for browsing like that, so I'd assume only special LimeWire administrators would have access to that if it were possible.

[Antony32]

1. Highlight the offending description title.
2. Right click and scroll to browse host.
3. Left click and take down the IP address that appears, you can also right
click the title bar and scroll down to location to reveal this information.
4. Open browser and go to www.virtualglobaltaskforce.com/
5. follow the instructions and don't forget folks... Include the IP address,
time and date. If this is not possible contact your local law enforcement
agency.

If any peadophiles are reading this.... Good! Kiss my ****.

[Kyrose]

I am sorry this happened to the girl.

You ask what is being done. Many are trying to do things.....people like the federal goverment, and the RIAA.....they want to do something.......not to help other girls.....not to stop porn......they could not care less about that......what they want is CONTROL over the internet....and posts and attitudes like yours will give that to them

Right now, the internet is free......the last place in the world that is truly free.........oh, yes, you pay your ISP, but that is for access.......the internet itself is free.....if you want your heavy-handed government to have the leverage to get legislation enacted so they can have domain/authority over the internet, then keep making these sorts of posts....and one day soon you will find that they will TELL you what sorts of posts you can make....and probably you will also be charged extra to do so, and be charged for emails as you are charged for sending a letter...............

Do you really want that?

You can help stop porn on the internet by NOT downloading it, by NOT talking about it(word of mouth is the best advertising, you know, so if we don't mention where the porn is or who has it, perhaps their links/files will simply die, eventually), and by reporting as available to the SITE (not the government) the people purveying porn......

As to Limewire, block the host, so no one on your pc ever sees it again.

I understand that porn is a problem to some folks, and I won't take issue with that. But porn was here, and was widely distributed, long before the internet came about. And most likely, it will be here long after you and I are long gone.

The important thing is to find ways to deal with it that DON'T involve the government, so the internet can remain free.

I agree completely.

You cannot stop child pornography, much less do what you can about world hunger or the increase world population.

However, here's a start. www.lightamillioncandles.com

Go there.

[HollowNyne]

I lit my candle o_O

[Kyrose]

I lit my candle o_O

Good.

The internet should remain free and limewire is the step. Although, some /b/tards are either just messing around sharing CP or viruses. :mad:

[gman70652]

I've noticed with some regular movies that I tried to download, the Browse Host button would not light up even when there were supposedly 10 hosts for the file. I think some users of the Gnuetella network are so savvy that they can get around Limewire's security measures.

What I don't know is why someone in government is not sitting on a network somewhere watching this stuff with a simple network sniffer. I'm obviously not a hacker, but a Novell CNE once showed me how he could pull anything he wanted from a sniffer trace, IP's, passwords, credit cards, whatever.

Man somebody knows how to monitor these people they just aren't doing it. For every new fancy software that comes out, with fancy encryption meant to keep people from copying it, within days, somebody somewhere is cracking it. Same with networks. Even the NSA with it's super computers are fighting a constant battle to keep ahead of the hackers. A math teacher once told me that the goal now of modern encryption and security measures is not 100% failsafe, but just to make access so difficult that it is beyond the means of most people to break it.

What I'm getting at is MORE CAN BE DONE AND IT IS NOT!!! I believe I may know the man that started this thread because a am a close personal friend of someone that lost thier daughter in the exact same way. The people that do this are evil and demon possessed and they need to cry out to God to have mercy on thier souls. One day there WILL be a recompense and the people that caused my fiends such pain and agony in this life will face an angry God who will make sure they get the same in the next life.

I know this isn't a religious forum, but brother this is serious business. The law is only one consequence for stealing the innocense of ones who cannot choose for themselves. Not only that ..... grrrrrrrrrr. I'm sick and I can't go on.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Kyrose]

I did a few rounds.

I've tracked the porn videos and traced I.p address which have now been reported to the proper authorities. Hopefully, that may help lessen a few *******s that distribute this things. I don't know how people find this can of material to be erotic or sexy, It's extremely distasteful.

Ugh! I had my share of bad experiences as a child and I don't seing vids of it as a reminder, thank you very much.

Good luck, everyone.

[TwistedPixel]

I have my LimeWire set not to show adult content and I never get adult content.

[Burgersoft777]

If you don't like it then don't download it. lol :D There's places to complain about certain users if they harbor & share such material as Kath said. There's links to various countries to complain to at the gnutella forums (ie: the link gives links to specific authorities per country involved.) Whilst I support the concept of sharing various topics, I don't support CP in any shape or form whatsoever: demand creates a need for larger supply, so eliminating supply ... I resent having illegal material forced on me through deception. Yes have complained :mad:

[john_mark_mcmahan]

I really love lime wire, but am concerned over the child porn! My bestfriends 5 yr. old daughter was kidnapped, raped, and murdered by one of these sick perverts! WHAT IS LIME WIRE DOING ABOUT THIS! IF THEY CAN'T STOP IT I BET THE FEDS COULD!:mad: :mad: :mad:
If the fed's could stop it dont you think they would.

[Burgersoft777]

If the fed's could stop it dont you think they would. Not on their own they can't possible police everything.
I think it requires a no tolerance response from users.

[john_mark_mcmahan]

Not on their own they can't possible police everything.
I think it requires a no tolerance response from users.
You cannot police the world, you can only secure the place you live and the internet that comes to you.

[Burgersoft777]

If the fed's could stop it dont you think they would.from what I can gather the fed's are behind a certain amount of the stuff in the first place. In the UK such proactive policing is called entrapment and is illegal, but the US allows such sting operations.

[Aaron.Walkhouse]

Any such stings use fake files that are not actually illegal.
The police cannot actually distribute illegal porn in any case.

[Burgersoft777]

Any such stings use fake files that are not actually illegal.
The police cannot actually distribute illegal porn in any case.
I am willing to belive that but there have been some practices in the states which we would consider illegal in their own right. The classic example in relation to child porn was operation ore where details of people who accessed certain porn portals had their credit card details leaked to our police. When the British acted on this information there were a number of people railroaded into convictions that are now unravelling. It turns out that the credit cards were linked to adult portals distributing all sorts of porn only some of which was really illegal. I suppose the point being that this is a difficult area to police. How many of the files that claim to contains Cp on lime-wire actually do is something that is impossible to know without taking the risk of downloading it. My real complaint and the reason for my outrage was that some files contained CP whilst claiming to be normal adult material. Why are so many files claiming to be something they are not on lime-wire ? As it is now I don't download anything unless I have confirmed the file at Bitzi first.

PS Frostwire is pretty good

[Only A Hobo]

Another of the few eminently sensible posts on this ubiquitous subject. :)

My real complaint and the reason for my outrage was that some files contained CP whilst claiming to be normal adult material

This is the thing that the Network can do nothing about .. use of Bitzi, as you have said, is the way to avoid these files for sure.

[SupremeKS]

OMFG, my first day on LimeWire, 12 year olds, sick to my stomach, omg, that is, omg, who in there right mind would be into such a thing? And can someone teach me to search? Since I am now afraid to search threw the thing. And I tohught the police were taking care of such things, so why is there stuff like this anywhere?

[john_mark_mcmahan]

Quality of Content on the Network (click on link) (http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17321&perpage=15&pagenumber=12=&postid=93195#post93195)

Should we ban cars because people get killed by them. Should we ban violent movies or any movie that has any type of dangerous weapon or the cop shows. LimeWire is just one program that uses the Gnutella network. There are many more. If you want to discuss this topic, it's already been discussed many times on the gnutella forums. http://www.gnutellaforums.com/
you are right about not all child modals are child porn thow most are. if you know art you look at it and injoy the feelling it gives you and if this feeling you injoy you bye the art. if the art is a gun and looking at it makes you wont to kill it is bad. If the art is a child and it makes you wont to R-A-P-E this is bad. Some people see childrin as art an some see them as somthing to R-A-P-E. Some modals are putting out the feeling of R-A-P-E me and some the feeling of art.

[ChestyPickle]

well hopefully the police catch a lot of these sick people would love to see a clean limewire but with all of the sick pervs on the net these days i doubt that will happen

the problem with that sentence, and PLEASE dont think im trying to defend CP or anything like that but, the problem witht hat sentence is "all of the sick pervs on the net these days". these sick perv's have always been around, for years and years and years. long before the internet. im so tired of people talking about how the internet is a hub for all things evil. these things have always been around. they've been a firm part of the catholic church for hundreds of years. so "these days" doesnt apply. these people are here now, were here then, and will still be here in another hundred years. obviously we should prosecute these people when they are found, but you cant blame things like the internet. thats just ridiculous. and is only going to be problematic when the government steps in and decides to start filtering the internet, like it is in china. ask anyone there what they think of it. they wont answer you, cause they're not allowed, but im willing to bet they dont like it very much.

[ChestyPickle]

you are right about not all child modals are child porn thow most are. if you know art you look at it and injoy the feelling it gives you and if this feeling you injoy you bye the art. if the art is a gun and looking at it makes you wont to kill it is bad. If the art is a child and it makes you wont to R-A-P-E this is bad. Some people see childrin as art an some see them as somthing to R-A-P-E. Some modals are putting out the feeling of R-A-P-E me and some the feeling of art.

that is an unbelievably moronic statement. if someone creates a piece of art for the purpose of creating art, and someone else looks at it and gets turned on and wants to **** someone, then its a problem with that person, not with the piece of art.

[clintwilmoth]

in my opinion limewire needs to get a content filter big time. wwith all the viruses ,kiddie porn and crap disguised as other"descient stuff" i'm getting ready to remove this lime wire thing and just go back to buying my music and books the old fashioned way,at least i know i wont get kiddie porn or a virus

[john_mark_mcmahan]

in my opinion limewire needs to get a content filter big time. wwith all the viruses ,kiddie porn and crap disguised as other"descient stuff" i'm getting ready to remove this lime wire thing and just go back to buying my music and books the old fashioned way,at least i know i wont get kiddie porn or a virus
Yes perverts have been around for a long time but that is no excuse for letting it run free on the internet, and it is not gust child porn it is the concept that r-a-p-e is love and be leave me it is the only love some people know. The question is are we willing and able to protect are selves and are children. I just know if I can run a search that brings up obviously child porn lime wire and government agencies can do a better policing job.

[john_mark_mcmahan]

that is an unbelievably moronic statement. if someone creates a piece of art for the purpose of creating art, and someone else looks at it and gets turned on and wants to **** someone, then its a problem with that person, not with the piece of art.
I never said it was the art’s fault, and only a moron could get that out of what I said. What I said was some child art seem to me if they have to spread their legs to be art the art lovers that watch them are pervs. And not just child porn all porn condones that r-a p-e is love and no I’m not a priest just not a rapist

[ChestyPickle]

\And not just child porn all porn condones that r-a p-e is love and no I’m not a priest just not a rapist

all porn condones r-a-p-e is love?! are you really that naive? you're very religious arent you? like, REALLY religious? thats absolutely insane. not all porn condones that. most of it doesnt.

i'm all for agencies doing their job and arresting these people, and if YOU can find it on limewire, they should be able to as well, and they SHOULD! but i definitely dont think that bans, and filters should be put on the internet, because censorship on the internet would be terrible. for so many reason. in the same way that censorship is ALWAYS a bad thing.

my advice, get rid of limewire because its total **** anyways, and start learning how to use torrents.

[Only A Hobo]

total **** eh??? ... now don't you get into the habit of making wild generalizations too :D

[ChestyPickle]

hahaha, yeah. well ive never really used limewire. any experience i have with it is people getting viruses and files incorrectly named to be something else. whereas torrents are usually ok. unless yr surfing public sites. in which case i suppose they're as unpredictable as limewire.

[Burgersoft777]

that is an unbelievably moronic statement. if someone creates a piece of art for the purpose of creating art, and someone else looks at it and gets turned on and wants to **** someone, then its a problem with that person, not with the piece of art. Well you would think so wouldn't you ? It would seem that the UK government doesnt agree and it may well be a case that drawings of a "certain" type are obscene and therefore likely to corrupt. So they are thinking of making things like Lolicon illegal as well as real pictures and films. I think it a bit ridiculous but so convinced are certain arbiters of public morality that art can corrupt, that they would try to put the censorship clock to the pre-net era.

[Leaving]

I just deleted limewire. i googled porn on limewire to see if anyone else has had the same concerns as me. This thread (many threads) came up in my google search. Limewire seems to be flooded with disturbing material. I check out porn on the internet, like most guys my age with internet access, but limewire is a bad place to do so. Even searching for music, some porn titles came up. nude 12 year olds is not my idea of entertainment. Just reading through this thread, it doesnt seem like there is much being done to stop this. for anyone downloading limewire videos, i would reccomend going elsewhere for PORN.

[Only A Hobo]

Just to repeat what has been said many times. There are filters on Limewire which users can use to filter out all sorts of undesirable material. Personally I use it sparingly. I filter the word orgasm and the following file extensions, with the dot or period. .wma .wmv .mov . The adult filter can also be enabled. Now these do not exclude many undesirable files but if you are going to download video, use the Bitzi look up .. Right click on a search result and choose advanced > look up with Bitzi. The Bitzi site will tell you the quality and accuracy of a file and if no result is found you might do best to avoid the file .. or you can make your own report using the Bitcollider.

The Gnutella network is a peer to peer network and as such can not vet the files shared on it in the way that some people would perhaps like, and that is one thing a great many users particularly like about the network. Pre- loaded filters could be built in .. this is a possibility, but .. exactly where would one stop. I personally feel the intelligent user can determine the filters they would like to use, themselves, and not let Limewire be used by children except under the kind of supervision that should govern all internet use by children.

There are ways to report child porn found with Limewire, but don't imagine that Limewire is, in any way, alone with this problem. As forum moderator here and elsewhere, I and thousands of others come across a pile of undesirable material, links to web sites etc, that hopefully gets removed before the majority of people see them, but the problem is all over the internet and perhaps all you complainers could do something about companies like gmail who inadvertently, or by poor management, allow their email accounts to be used by more spammers of junk, porn and worse than you might possibly imagine.

I refuse to use gmail for exactly this reason.

[Burgersoft777]

The reality is that a number of very nasty people have amended almost every porn tape they can find and added a false or misleading title. I would not recommend downloading anything that you have not checked with Bitzi First. If the file isn't there then don't bother its not worth the risk. Otherwise Limeware is pretty decent. I suspect the the days of P2P are numbered so enjoy it while you can.

[someguy]

Yes you are right.Its definitely on there.Why they feel the need to put false file names is annoying.For anything really.Ive reported a bunch of it over time to the fbi, I don't really know if they ever did anything they never reply.As someone else pointed out here they couldn't care less unless its about control and money or making themselves look good.I would recommend previewing everything and if you see it delete it and mark it as junk but then I guess they can come kick your door down just for that.The answer well there really isn't one.Stop the people who are making it would be a good start.

[acidcandy]

as I agree with many people filtering files isn t enough to stop child porn...

Why limrewire doesn t propose like his concurrent trustyfiles software, an anonymous report system incorporated to limewire? i used trustyfiles before, but the network was so slow that i gave up... however, i did report through this software, simple to use, just click right on the suspicious files, send report and this will send to competent organisation the hash of the file and numerous informations to them.

I believe this is a good utility to fight against CP and get rid of it... I Think Limewire should really go in this way, and surely more people will appreciate this software in a good way.

[Burgersoft777]

I do think that Child Porn is not a limewire problem but a social one. Of course any way of reporting those who upload the images/films would be really useful and would kill it dead quickly. As it is the law in the UK is very strict. There being no defense of accidental download in our law, so don't try to do the polices work for them, your attempts might get you into very hot water. P2P's have been abused because of the difficulty of tracing the individual computers that host this filth.
The situation has improved greatly on the rest of the internet over the last four years. These days you are unlikely to be directed to CP by Google,Yahoo etc and there are effective reporting mechanisms in place. I recall the early years of the net when there really was a wild west atmosphere, sadly a lot of censorship has now been put place. I think it is quite fair to blame the CP pushers for damaging a great deal of all of our freedoms by their selfish and illegal activity.
This is the bottom line Cp is illegal and it is offensive to the vast majority of us.Anyway at all that we can catch these "pushers" of child **** has to be a good thing. If we totally removed any file that contained the phrase PTHC from the network by hardwireing the filters into the software,they (the creeps)would only find another buzz phrase to distribute under. I suspect that the CIA and others are looking into the large numbers of files and hopefully they will catch the ring leaders in the near future. On a positive note conviction for CP related offenses have increased dramatically over the last five years which suggest the Police are getting the upper hand.
Thankfully making themselves visible is coming back to haunt many of these creeps.

[mickyblack]

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[mickyblack]

no we should not ban car,s but we sould ban people that abouse car,s by drinking when driveing them and no we should not ban site,s but we should ban people that abouse the net by puting stuff on it that you would have to be sick to watch.
how in this world can you put car,s an film,s in the same catagorey as some one takeing a little girl or boy and doing thing,s so evil to them and takeing some thing away from them that thay will never get back.
can you think what it would be like to never feel physical love without suspision or remembering that evil time
and you think that,s the same as car,s an films

[mickyblack]

Quality of Content on the Network (click on link) (http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17321&perpage=15&pagenumber=12=&postid=93195#post93195)

Should we ban cars because people get killed by them. Should we ban violent movies or any movie that has any type of dangerous weapon or the cop shows. LimeWire is just one program that uses the Gnutella network. There are many more. If you want to discuss this topic, it's already been discussed many times on the gnutella forums. http://www.gnutellaforums.com/

you put some one doing evil to kid,s in the same catagorey as car,s an film,s

[tyciol]

You cannot stop child pornography, much less do what you can about world hunger or the increase world population. However, here's a start. www.lightamillioncandles.com Go there.I went and checked this out. It's interesting to hear about because a friend of mine had been telling me to light candles, so I'm wondering if this is where she got the idea from. It's more polite to cite your sources in cases like that...

Now from what I can see, you light a virtual candle which is supposed to function like some kinda petition for politicians to heed? I don't think they'd really heed it, it doesn't even seem to have names... what 'litician is going to listen when you say "hey look my site got this much traffic and out of that traffic this many people clicked the candle". It just doesn't have the same impact as named petitions do.

As for lighting a candle IRL it doesn't really help anyway it's just like how people wear those ribbons to feel good like they're helping when they're really not they're just wasting resources.

Although, some /b/tards are either just messing around sharing CP or viruses. :mad:I really hate viruses! I mean it's one thing for them to mess with illegal media but with viruses, those things can spread to people unwillingly even between friends who aren't actively sharing them because of how they commandeer PCs. They ruin things and make people unhappy and unhappy people go out and hurt others and/or do not stop travesties.

I have my LimeWire set not to show adult content and I never get adult content.Lucky you :) However, I don't really see the relevance. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean other people will not be lambasted with porn because filters are never perfect and occasionally some La Blue Girl is going to slip through the cracks while you're trying to watch some french film or something. Not to mention 'adult content' isn't the issue here, much adult content is legal.

OMFG, my first day on LimeWire, 12 year olds, sick to my stomach, omg, that is, omg, who in there right mind would be into such a thing?It's hard to say, we all know so very few people and even with close friends it's difficult to assess whether or not people are in their right minds eh? I imagine a lot of people into such a thing are not in their right minds, however considering how it is illegal, people who tend to get into it tend not to be in their right minds in the first place considering how they're putting their freedom in jeapordy by viewing media the governments have outlawed. This takes a bit of a risk-taking personality to begin with. People who risk their freedom to view illegal media, possibly leftminded rather than rightminded? But I have to wonder, since so few look perhaps perspective is influenced by setting and more less-leftminded people would potentially be into it were it legal to look at. After all, there are a variety of reasons to look at things besides being aroused by them. I don't outright assume people who watch execution videos or snuff films are necessarily aroused by them, a lot of them do it to try and learn about the mindsets of the perpetrators in them in an effort to prevent such mindsets or to help treat the disorderly ones in their care.

And can someone teach me to search? Since I am now afraid to search threw the thing. And I tohught the police were taking care of such things, so why is there stuff like this anywhere?There's no tried-and-true way, the only way's to just not search, or to search for the types of files which could not be the type you're trying to avoid (like text documents, music files, not video files). If you do want to look for vids try to avoid using terms with multiple meanings or slang. For example do NOT try to download the film adaptation of Vladimir's novel '******' off of Limewire. You can imagine why that would turn up things other than what you intended to find. It's better to just go buy or rent such a thing from a real life store.

you are right about not all child modals are child porn thow most are.Proof? I really doubt any significant number of modeling jobs are porn, the majority are there to sell things because that is a more profitable industry, such as children who get paid to advertise clothing, food, etc in commercials and billboards. Those are 'child models' and not pornography and the economic appeal is far more prolific in such a case.

if you know art you look at it and injoy the feelling it gives you and if this feeling you injoy you bye the art. if the art is a gun and looking at it makes you wont to kill it is bad. If the art is a child and it makes you wont to R-A-P-E this is bad. Some people see childrin as art an some see them as somthing to R-A-P-E. Some modals are putting out the feeling of R-A-P-E me and some the feeling of art.Models and the art they are in do not put out a certain feeling. I agree with you that it is bad if gun art makes someone want to kill. However, it is not the art that is bad, but rather, the person who is bad. If I draw a gun, it's just art. It does not have any necessitated response to it. If someone wants to kill when they see it, they are the person with problems who need treatment, not the gun painting. No model puts out 'the feeling of rap' because there really is no way to entice such a desire in people. People's sexual desires are sometimes enticed, and in some people that sometimes leads to a desire for rap, but that doesn't mean it is something inherant about the media.

Yes perverts have been around for a long time but that is no excuse for letting it run free on the internet, and it is not gust child porn it is the concept that r-a-p-e is love and be leave me it is the only love some people know. The question is are we willing and able to protect are selves and are children. I just know if I can run a search that brings up obviously child porn lime wire and government agencies can do a better policing ******** person who mentioned it being around a long time did not at all imply that it excused its presence, so you should not imply they were saying such a thing when they were obviously not. It's called arguing a straw man. No one excuses things running free, but rather, observe that it is nothing new, and simply another way that people are sharing media. Prior to the internet, they did it with tapes. Prior to tapes, they did it with drawings. Prior to drawings, they did it by writing. Prior to writing, they did it by speech.

I am sort of worried about how many of these we are going to interfere with in the desire to suppress thoughts people find repugnant. Personally, I see it as a pointless battle, I would rather spend my efforts combatting unacceptable actions, like the ones on the videos getting circulated, rather than worry about who is looking at them. Laws to penalize citizens for not voluntarily cooperating with police investigations into the source of these media would be okay, but not punishing them nearly as much as the people committing the original actions. It seems like a waste of resources and a way of distracting from law enforcement's ineptitude at stopping the people who are doing the most harm.

some child art seem to me if they have to spread their legs to be art the art lovers that watch them are pervs. And not just child porn all porn condones that r-a p-e is love and no I’m not a priest just not a rapistI don't think anyone implies that models HAVE to do that for pictures of them to be art. It's more along the lines that some artists feel it can still be art if they do. One case pertaining to confusion of art with this topic would be the case of Eli Langer who was tried in 1993 for this issue in his paintings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Langer

Well you would think so wouldn't you ? It would seem that the UK government doesnt agree and it may well be a case that drawings of a "certain" type are obscene and therefore likely to corrupt. So they are thinking of making things like Lolicon illegal as well as real pictures and films. I think it a bit ridiculous but so convinced are certain arbiters of public morality that art can corrupt, that they would try to put the censorship clock to the pre-net era.Indeed, I think is is more than a bit ridiculous personally. From the research I have done, Canada has already succeeded in that. What's ironic about this is you would expect Canada to rather follow Britain's example on major moral issues rather than the other way around. I have not ascertained this but based upon edit additions, Norway and Sweden may have also done this. It requires confirmation though. The US did (via GB) but this didn't hold against the supreme court, unlike Canada whose supreme court supported this in the R v Sharpe case and used this as a precident to prosecute two men for possession of cartoon images. Considering how it is legal in Canada's 2 neighbours Japan and the United States, it seems wrong for it to be illegal there. It discourages the sharing of culture and comradery between nations when laws pertaining to media are not equal.

Even searching for music, some porn titles came up. nude 12 year olds is not my idea of entertainment.I'm a bit confused, the first sentence doesn't seem to apply to the second, because not all 'porn titles' contain that. Nor would all of the latter be considered a 'porn title' if it were a naturist home video displayed with asexual (non-sexual) intent. But anyway, to each their own.

The reality is that a number of very nasty people have amended almost every porn tape they can find and added a false or misleading title.It'd bear mentioning that nasty people are just as able to do this to non***** tapes as well. Although, in some cases it might be perceived as humorous or preachy rather than nasty. Like for example, how people make those movies saying "porn is bad accept god into your life" and then label it with a bunch of porn-sounding names. I've got mixed feelings about them. They're certainly more clever than those BS fake music files people put up that are like 23:00 long for a song that's supposed to be 1:23 or something.

I would recommend previewing everything and if you see it delete it and mark it as junk but then I guess they can come kick your door down just for that.The answer well there really isn't one.Stop the people who are making it would be a good start.You're right, they can kick your door down for previewing, it's not an adequate defense. Previewing requires at least partially downloading a file, which is unacceptable. Otherwise people would download only 99% of files as a way of evading prosecution. There is no answer for how honest people with good intentions can be defended against this. Stopping the makers is certainly a good start, but this is something law enforcement seems to suck at, much like they can't catch Bin Laden they'll go after fans of his instead to appear moderately successful and distract the populace from their failures.

I do think that Child Porn is not a limewire problem but a social one.It can't be both?

Of course any way of reporting those who upload the images/films would be really useful and would kill it dead quickly.There are ways of reporting it. People don't usually do it because it implicates them as well. By reporting it, you reveal your details and usually, it's easier to go after you than the person you are reporting to fulfill arrest quotas or pass the time. You have to realize, it's not just uploading that's criminal, possession in most places is criminal too. Furthermore, with the way limewire works, many people do not upload to others who do not also upload files. Therefore, you would not even be able to find out the nature of a file until having downloaded it and thus, having begun to upload it and being guilty yourself. The only way to avoid the problem is to not download any video files at all. Filesharing networks should only be used for text documents and music. Honestly I'm not even sure if that's safe, some countries make possessing stories illegal too.

As it is the law in the UK is very strict. There being no defense of accidental download in our law, so don't try to do the polices work for them, your attempts might get you into very hot water. P2P's have been abused because of the difficulty of tracing the individual computers that host this filth.Thanks for the warning. UK laws like many other countries seem to have problems in pursuing true justice here.

The situation has improved greatly on the rest of the internet over the last four years. These days you are unlikely to be directed to CP by Google,Yahoo etcI'm not sure how accurate this is. With RL cp maybe however with 3 countries now also including cartoons in this category, I would say a definite no. Google still directs people to sites hosted in countries where this media is legal (Japan, United States) where fans talk about it, and people in countries where it is illegal are vulnerable to accidentally accessing it.

and there are effective reporting mechanisms in place. I recall the early years of the net when there really was a wild west atmosphere, sadly a lot of censorship has now been put place. I think it is quite fair to blame the CP pushers for damaging a great deal of all of our freedoms by their selfish and illegal activity.I wouldn't call a mechanism effective unless it's something people are going to use. Most of these I don't think people are going to want to use something that puts their freedom at jeopardy.

I do not think it is fair to blame the 'CP pushers' (if such a class of people exist) for damaging freedoms. They cannot damage freedoms, only we can by repealing them out of fear. We are the ones permitting the loss of our own freedoms, essentially voting them away by keeping politicians who pass such fear-filled measures in office. There are ALWAYS going to be people out there we perceive as villains, and there are ALWAYS going to be potential measures people will think about taking that will make it easier to catch them, but at the cost of restricting our quality of life and freedom of thought. It is not accurate at all to place the blame on the 'enemy' but rather, upon ourselves for not taking the extra effort it takes to capture them in a proper manner rather than with some ridiculous shotgun method which doesn't even catch the best of them and only catches the incompetant and the curious/innocent citizens not hurting anyone.

This is the bottom line Cp is illegal and it is offensive to the vast majority of us.Anyway at all that we can catch these "pushers" of child **** has to be a good thing.Illegality is not really a bottom line, considering many things legal become illegal later and vice versa. Similarly, what people find offensive also fluctuates (consider what we found offensive a century ago). I really am wondering if there are really 'pushers' are you describe. Anyone going to the effort of 'pushing' it is probably going to be quickly caught by police I'd think.

If we totally removed any file that contained the phrase PTHC from the network by hardwireing the filters into the software,they (the creeps)would only find another buzz phrase to distribute under. I suspect that the CIA and others are looking into the large numbers of files and hopefully they will catch the ring leaders in the near future.I agree that censoring buzzwords would not solve anything. If anything, keeping it up gives the police a tool to use in tracking files and the people who download them for creating network files for their use. I don't really think the problem here are people you'd call a 'ringleader' (indeed a lot of rings do not even have leaders) but rather than a ring a 'tree' may be a more proper analogy, where at the top you have the people creating the media who are linked to/know about (or who are) the people commiting the illegal actions displayed in the media, and then the branches would be the distributors. As far as I'm concerned the people who it is most important to catch (IMO the only ones worth catching) are the ones on top who are actively breaking laws pertaining to involving themselves with children directly. All the others are only breaking media laws, which are really rather controversial and new in the first place. We've had laws against underage sex (usually called statutory ****) for a long time now (1-3 centuries?), whereas laws prosecuting media are rather recent (1-3 decades?).

On a positive note conviction for CP related offenses have increased dramatically over the last five years which suggest the Police are getting the upper hand. Thankfully making themselves visible is coming back to haunt many of these creeps.Positive is also something that is relative to times and people. Personally, I do not think increased convictions suggest the police getting the upper hand at all. The intent behind these laws presumably is to protect children, yet prosecuting people for possessing media does not protect children. What I think would be more likely to protect them is locating the people creating it in the first place so that you can rescue the children from them so they don't continue to do the things that they're videotaping. Indeed, making themselves visible on tape is coming back to haunt SOME of these creeps, however catching the original perps is I think a minority of what these increased convictions are composed of. I think it is more comparable to, when you can't catch the coke growings, you go after the coke dealers, and when you can't catch the coke dealers you go after the coke addicts. You can increase convictions this way, which makes you look better and appeases the populace's lack of confidence in you, however this does nothing to solve the root problems and tends to punish people who aren't actually hurting anyone directly. I personally wouldn't go after someone who is paying for coke, and in this case a lot of people aren't even paying for it they're getting it for free. It's one thing to support illegal actions through funding it but when you get it free I really have trouble perceiving how it supports it.

no we should not ban car,s but we sould ban people that abouse car,s by drinking when driveing themUsually when we outlaw drinking and driving it is more for concern of the person abusing their, other drivers', and pedestrians' health by the increased rate of accidents. People are actually totally free to abuse their cars, if I wanted to take a crowbar to my windshield in a safe manner I could totally do it legally you know :p

and no we should not ban site,s but we should ban people that abouse the net by puting stuff on it that you would have to be sick to watch.Since when does one need to be sick to watch something? Watching is something that doesn't have any moral or health-based attachment to it. For example, police watch this stuff. Personally, I don't feel police are the only people capable of watching something objectively with care for victims they see in media nor the only ones filled with a desire to help others in seeing how they suffer.

how in this world can you put car,s an film,s in the same catagorey as some one takeing a little girl or boy and doing thing,s so evil to them and takeing some thing away from them that thay will never get back. can you think what it would be like to never feel physical love without suspision or remembering that evil time and you think that,s the same as car,s an filmsWho put cars/films in the same category exactly? This is the first mention I've seen of it. It may make communication easier if you would quote the people whom you are replying to to identify this. As for your proposal, I can think how it would be like, I think it'd be like something bad'n frustrating. I do have similar difficulty in making an analogy with automobiles and cinema.

you put some one doing evil to kid,s in the same catagorey as car,s an film,sAh, okay so you were replying to 'Lord of the Rings'. It would have made more sense to edit that quote and you reply to it into your original post rather than make a double-post out of order like that. It is confusing to readers. As to your implicat, LotR was not putting them in the same category. But rather, from what I was gathering he was putting people who frequently experience physical injury (those in automobile accidents) in the same category of those who frequently experience psychological injury (those who have sex who are not of the age of consent, or who are not of the age required to film pornography, currently 16/18 respectively in Canada for example).

[Kath]

Please stop filling this forum with a medley of quotes and your mammoth responses, I don't have the patience to read all your pontificating.

[bunny555]

i agree! this is disgusting!

[clownface]

as i try to download any and all i get all the CP. is there a way for this to be traced by law enforcement to stop it from coming thru? i read the lime privacy report and it states that they have no control over this because it's considered P2P and not going thru a main server.

[Aaron.Walkhouse]

The network is wide open, so there's nowhere for the criminals to hide.
Any criminal stupid enough to share illegal content like that on gnutella
is effectively telling the whole world "here I am, come and get me".

[brian2417]

oh my god i am so sorry what happned i dont know what would drive someone to do something that sick and evil if there is a way to report it i will go on a repoting spree and report evrey little thing

[TwilightDreamer101]

lmao Such A Shame...**** Perves!!!

[windsorwoody]

sad to see the wrong type of porn being hidden in wrong titles some of these dads or men using the internet to show how sick there are nudity no matter what age can be tastefull and beautifull to look at but to see how they use these young girls to please there sickness needs to be addressed now trouble is the govt and police set up sting and never get the real bad guys and send curios lookers or gallable people to jail so my question is why we all can search some of these guys computers and the same cp is always there with there ip address and no cop seems to be able to catch them why cant limewire or the network send them a alert telling them to erase all that from there computer or the cops will be at there front door soon that would shake most of them up if there innocent and pretent they dont know whats on there computer

[Burgersoft777]

In Law it is utterly wrong to go inside other peoples property without permission that is out of the question. However those people who have given share permission have no defence. So why do the police only ever seem to get the user? Well this isn't quite true some recent cases have been very reassuring Kylie Freeman being the classic example.:D Light a Candle for these poor children and lets push for our governments to do something more about this. AS for the CIA I have little time for this agency as it is often involved in Entrapment Frankly so wrong is this approach that in British law it is utterly forbidden. Saying that our current corrupt government cares little for the law and often installs devices and code in machines considering themselves above that law. Such a shame that such code sticks out like a sour thumb when a device is suddenly removed and replaced with a clone…Our Fight is giants against those people who ever they are who imagine that they have rights of control over People.