[Sam]

We've just released an alpha version of LimeWire 5. You can check it out at http://www.limewire.com/download/alphaversion.php .

It's a pretty big change from earlier versions of LimeWire. The first thing you'll notice is we rewrote the entire interface from scratch. You'll also noticed that we've included support for Jabber (XMPP). This means that LimeWire can sign-on to your favorite Jabber service and it will detect other friends of yours that are also signed on. You can share files directly with your friends. When you search, you'll see results from friends listed above other search results.

Check out http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/...wire-adds.html for Wired's review of the alpha.

This is still an early release, and we're fully expecting bugs and other issues. That said, we've been working hard on LimeWire 5 for a long time -- we run it every day to test our constant changes -- and we think it's pretty darn good and stable.

As part of writing LimeWire 5, we took the opportunity to make LimeWire's open source code even easier for aspiring developers to use. There's now an easy-to-use "core-api" component. You can use the "core-glue" component as LimeWire's implementation of core-api, or you can write your own if you'd like to test things out yourself. The tutorials at http://wiki.limewire.org/index.php?title=Using_the_Core will be updated soon to make use of the new API.

Thanks,
The LimeWire Team

[Lord of the Rings]

OSX 10.5, booted into alt. OSX drive, installed Alpha over 4.18.8. It would not connect past 3 green bars. Set up new account & it would not connect at all even after reboot. Copied other gnutella.net file across, it connected up to 3 bars only. Copied gnutella.net file across from other drive, same issue. Disabled all performance options, etc.

Copied prefs from one drive to another in 1st account on alt osx & the alpha kept freezing unable to handle large library of shares.

Other than that: Alpha seems incapable of reading shared file custom Description details. I guess that has not been fully implemented yet.

Display for images is good so you can see what you are sharing.
Was unable to get search results so unable to comment on new results layout.

Dislikes/small bugs:
- Windows not easy to access. Many people like the present LW layout due to it's ease & simplicity to access their downloads, search results or shared files details.
- Options seem limited; seems decision making on behalf of user rather than allowing them to customise settings.
- Hit with internal errors several times, a couple of times when checking advanced options.
- Description window: a medium-large sized audio Genre blocks out part of the date of the song (see sample image). Title number looks incredibly small.
- Share with the P2P Network window: The categories shares numbers get partially blocked out by the box listing the files to the right of it (see sample image).
- Clicking on such categories means all such files get shared which is potentially dangerous & undesired by many if not most people.
- Listings of files shared & not shared is confusing & not totally clear to users. Of course previously they were colored red if not shared. Now a number, but still not highly clear a file is being shared.
- (when clicking the Share link beside item) Share item option shows a Cross icon which is a little confusing. Perhaps a Tick would be more appropriate.
- File sizes are no longer listed on column headings in shared files. Right-click/Control-click to get info about file is quite inconvenient. Extra show options for columns would be better IMHO. Similar to how some audio programs do it, giving option of showing extra columns for various details.

Reported via a friend:
There's no Bitzi lookup any more. Right click > get file info shows you the hash value but I haven't tried looking up the hash on Bitzi yet.

Bitrate isn't displayed in search results, you have to right click on a search result > get file info to see a bitrate. File size is displayed in MB (can't yet find a way to change that, if there is one) - makes it a bit more difficult to spot the nasty files.

Show Incoming Searches is on by default & I can't find a way to turn that off either.

You have to go into Tools to see your uploads.

The junk filter is now called 'spam' & the only option is to reset the filter.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

OSX 10.5, booted into alt. OSX drive, installed Alpha over 4.18.8. It would not connect past 3 green bars. Set up new account & it would not connect at all even after reboot. Copied other gnutella.net file across, it connected up to 3 bars only. Copied gnutella.net file across from other drive, same issue. Disabled all performance options, etc.

There's a major connecting issue on OS X right now. We *think* it's because of TLS. If you disable the TLS option & start up, it should connect fully. We're putting lots of effort into fixing this. Sorry for the troubles.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Copied prefs from one drive to another in 1st account on alt osx & the alpha kept freezing unable to handle large library of shares.

Yes -- for some reason OS X has more trouble handling large libraries than Windows. This might be related to other issues we're seeing on OS X. We're doing some heavy debugging on OS X to figure out all the issues.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Other than that: Alpha seems incapable of reading shared file custom Description details. I guess that has not been fully implemented yet.

Could you explain this one a bit more? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Display for images is good so you can see what you are sharing.
Was unable to get search results so unable to comment on new results layout.

Glad you like the image displays. Mike E did a great job on quickly building those thumbnails. I've got about 4,000 5MB pictures from my travels and LW loads them up super fast. It's really pretty amazing. Sorry about the troubles with connecting... we'll hopefully have that fixed for the next alpha.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Windows not easy to access. Many people like the present LW layout due to it's ease & simplicity to access their downloads, search results or shared files details.

The layout is pretty much the same. You can see your downloads while you're searching (if there's any downloads) by a quick tray in the bottom, or you can see the full view. There's also some improvements in that when you download the search result changes to a "Downloading..." link that can jump you to more info. Same thing with a search result in your library. Is there any specific data about shared files that you'd like to see?

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Options seem limited; seems decision making on behalf of user rather than allowing them to customise settings.

There's only a few options that we got rid of (because they were more confusing than anything else). Is there anything specific you'd like to see added back?

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Hit with internal errors several times, a couple of times when checking advanced options.

So long as you clicked 'Send' on the error, we'll get around to fixing those. Thanks for letting us know!

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Description window: a medium-large sized audio Genre blocks out part of the date of the song (see sample image). Title number looks incredibly small.

The properties windows are completely unfinished. That's high on our list of things to clean up & paint properly.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Share with the P2P Network window: The categories shares numbers get partially blocked out by the box listing the files to the right of it (see sample image).

Yeah, we know there's a bunch of issues with the #s in the sharing views. We're thinking of ways to clean that up.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Clicking on such categories means all such files get shared which is potentially dangerous & undesired by many if not most people.

It's an improvement from the existing LW version in that in the 4.x series, anything in your library was pretty much always shared -- no matter what. The new LW lets you have things in the library that aren't shared, and, if you want to specifically share certain things, you can do that too. Or you can choose the old LW behavior and share everything in certain categories.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Listings of files shared & not shared is confusing & not totally clear to users. Of course previously they were colored red if not shared. Now a number, but still not highly clear a file is being shared.

The library is a completely different concept in LimeWire 5. To find out what you're sharing, you either look at the "Sharing" column in "My Library" -- the number tells you how many people it's shared with. If you want to see everything shared with a specific person, or view the "Share List" of that person by clicking the button labelled that way in the library header. Things that have a checkmark under "Shared" are shared. If you're curious, we've done a lot of usability tests with lots of different variations, and this model seemed to work the best (and made the most sense to us). We've been taking snapshots of the program as it's developed, and when it's done we'll release the iterations so people can follow it and see the progressions.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

(when clicking the Share link beside item) Share item option shows a Cross icon which is a little confusing. Perhaps a Tick would be more appropriate.

The "share widget" (the thing that pops up when you click share) is totally unpainted right now. It's very high on the list of things to clean up & paint properly.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

File sizes are no longer listed on column headings in shared files. Right-click/Control-click to get info about file is quite inconvenient. Extra show options for columns would be better IMHO. Similar to how some audio programs do it, giving option of showing extra columns for various details.

If filesize isn't listed by default, it should be available as an additional column from right-clicking on the tables headers. (If it isn't listed, that's a bug we'll fix.)

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

There's no Bitzi lookup any more. Right click > get file info shows you the hash value but I haven't tried looking up the hash on Bitzi yet.

I suppose we can add a bitzi lookup into the properties window, but I dunno if it'll make it into the right-click of the search itself. It's a real advanced thing, and we're trying to cut away the cruft of tossing every little feature into plain sight.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Bitrate isn't displayed in search results, you have to right click on a search result > get file info to see a bitrate. File size is displayed in MB (can't yet find a way to change that, if there is one) - makes it a bit more difficult to spot the nasty files.

We did a lot of usability tests, and not a single person we talked to even knew what bitrate was. The "Quality" explains the bitrate (plus other factors) in terms that people understood better. How important is seeing the actual bitrate to you? If enough people want it, we can consider adding an option to customize what's shown in the list view subheading. The filesize shouldn't always be MB -- it should vary according to the size of the file. What's the highest/lowest value you've seen listed as MB?

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Show Incoming Searches is on by default & I can't find a way to turn that off either.

Is there a reason you'd like to turn it off? It seemed an unnecessary option.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

You have to go into Tools to see your uploads.

Viewing uploads isn't a common action. We didn't want to overload the UI with ways to do things that aren't common. hopalong suggested moving some things into View, which is a good idea.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

The junk filter is now called 'spam' & the only option is to reset the filter.

Could you explain this one more? I'm not sure what the issue is.

Thanks very much for the feedback!

[birdy]

Having downloaded files automatically add to the iTunes library is nice

I can't find an equivalent to the old firewall icon - sorry if I'm being dense & missing an option somewhere!
Users who are concerned about sharing might wonder why they're seeing no uploads... if there's some sort of indication that they're firewalled, they can go about trying to fix the problem. Likewise if someone's having intermittent connection problems, having some kind of firewall indicator could help to diagnose their problem (I know this is a 'forum helper' kind of request but if it's going to aid in more files being shared on the network then maybe it's something to consider).

There seems to be way less spam showing in search results. Is AW's hostiles list the 'LimeWire's blacklist' that shows in tools > options > super really advanced > filtering?

Personally, I like to see a bitrate option for search results. And people who're concerned about the quality of a file might want to sort their results by bitrate, rather than file size, disregarding the lower bitrates. For example, if a song with a bitrate of 96 goes for 6 minutes & has a file size of 5.5 MB and another version of the same song with a bitrate of 320 goes for 2 minutes & has a file size of just under 5.5 MB... in that case file size might not be an indicator of the quality.

Is it possible to retain the Extension option for all searches & after restarting LW? I like to see file extensions in search results & ATM I have to tick that option every time I do a new search or restart LW.

I'd love to see the option to look up a file with Bitzi - even if the spam's been reduced a lot, people are still going to be concerned about the quality of their downloads (& there's bound to be some bad files that fall through the cracks that the spam filter doesn't catch)... Bitzi is a good tool in that regard.

LOTR - I find the incoming searches annoying to look at as well. I've just realised that you can drag the Advanced Tools window up to hide those searches

Late edit - I can't see a way to disable the LW player. Can't find anything within options & a right click on 'Player' doesn't give me anything. I know you can play files from the saved folder with another player, but was just wondering if we can use another player for previewing music downloads & playing files from within LW's library?

[Spermicyde]

Is anyone else having problems logging into their Gmail account via the new LimeWire? I've tried multiple times and it won't accept my username and password. I tried my email address with and without the "***********" at the end, changed my password to ensure it was right, and even logged in/out of Gmail using IE to ensure my credentials were OK. I'm really anxious to try out the new private file sharing feature via my Gmail account but it won't work!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by birdy

Having downloaded files automatically add to the iTunes library is nice

Thanks! The LW Store folks wrote that for us & we bundled it in. They wanted their store downloads showing up in iTunes.

Originally Posted by birdy

I can't find an equivalent to the old firewall icon - sorry if I'm being dense & missing an option somewhere!

Nope, you're not being dense -- it's not in the alpha right now. There's a bit of code in code-review right now to re-add it with even more features (such as the reason FWT transfers are turned off). What I'd like to sneak into the eventual release is a whole "support help" page that is a question/answer checklist of common support questions. If you have a list of questions the program can automatically answer, write them here & we can include a page like that.

Originally Posted by birdy

There seems to be way less spam showing in search results. Is AW's hostiles list the 'LimeWire's blacklist' that shows in tools > options > super really advanced > filtering?

LW still supports any file called hostiles.txt in it's preferences dir. I'm not sure if things from that file will show up in the UI, but it does use the data under-the-hood.

Originally Posted by birdy

Personally, I like to see a bitrate option for search results. And people who're concerned about the quality of a file might want to sort their results by bitrate, rather than file size, disregarding the lower bitrates. For example, if a song with a bitrate of 96 goes for 6 minutes & has a file size of 5.5 MB and another version of the same song with a bitrate of 320 goes for 2 minutes & has a file size of just under 5.5 MB... in that case file size might not be an indicator of the quality.

Perhaps we can add an advanced option somewhere to show the bitrate, and if it's checked it'll offer an option to sort by bitrate too.

Originally Posted by birdy

Is it possible to retain the Extension option for all searches & after restarting LW? I like to see file extensions in search results & ATM I have to tick that option every time I do a new search or restart LW.

Yup, we're working right now on persisting column width/visibility/order between sessions.

Originally Posted by birdy

I'd love to see the option to look up a file with Bitzi - even if the spam's been reduced a lot, people are still going to be concerned about the quality of their downloads (& there's bound to be some bad files that fall through the cracks that the spam filter doesn't catch)... Bitzi is a good tool in that regard.

We'll see if there's a place it can neatly go back in.

Originally Posted by birdy

I can't see a way to disable the LW player. Can't find anything within options & a right click on 'Player' doesn't give me anything. I know you can play files from the saved folder with another player, but was just wondering if we can use another player for previewing music downloads & playing files from within LW's library?

I don't think there's a way right now. I'll see how folks feel about offering an option to disable it.


Thanks for the comments!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Spermicyde

Is anyone else having problems logging into their Gmail account via the new LimeWire? I've tried multiple times and it won't accept my username and password. I tried my email address with and without the "***********" at the end, changed my password to ensure it was right, and even logged in/out of Gmail using IE to ensure my credentials were OK. I'm really anxious to try out the new private file sharing feature via my Gmail account but it won't work!

We haven't seen anyone unable to login. What error message does it give? Could you open Advanced Tools, choose the console tab, scroll down to "org.limewire.xmpp.client.impl.*" choose "ALL" in the next dropdown box, click Apply, and try to login again? Could you copy/paste here the stuff that's printed out? Thanks!

[Lord of the Rings]

I realise that the alpha is the basic LW core, not everything 'fully' included yet so I'm not sure my comments are all necessary.

Actually I think people viewing their uploads is more common than you may think. Sure they don't sit there all day watching them lol. But people do view them for various reasons. (There's also the question of how some anti-p2p organisations work, deliberately filling up the upload slots of 'some' users.) Browsing uploaders can help find similar sharers & IMO seems to also broaden search result horizon in a way. At least when searching for the rarer files. Perhaps I'm not accurate about how that works but just speaking from personal experience of difficult to find file searching & techniques of spreading the distance of your searches. Such a browse may find multiple results (connect to others by browsing such.)

Being able to set uploads per person is something I liked so one person does not hog all the upload slots. With a large shared library & a wide variety of files I don't wish too many people to be queued up, especially if they only wish one file. eg: I've had same person uploading files from me for over a month, I would not have wanted them to steal all my upload slots & stop others uploading from me.

Upgrade to Pro pop up window when opening LW: Is it possible to make this simply text with a link on main window instead. The pop up window has caused some users problems for many years. It also loads up slowly on my system (when I have many shares at least).

I like the option to set the default search type.

Library column heading options - yes it's changed from Control-click to Command-click (apple key). Just discovered the change. Wondered why it didn't work yesterday. lol But using Command instead of Control key means it arranges the files in the order of the particular heading you clicked; an oversight I think, should probably be changed back to Control key. I 'do' like the changes. Length (& dimensions) is also great for videos & audio files.

As for the Description window, I've noticed the year & track boxes are expandable as soon as it finds data. This is good. eg: Year box shrinks if it finds no data, track box expands if it finds a number. Easy to add details too. However, no option to add Description such as Comments.
No add Comments available for any media types. The add Description options seem to have mostly been removed. I believe this has not yet been fully added right? I read a comment to say such.
Appears no way to add description to multiple files at once as of yet. eg: Year or album.

Yes the p2p network with the Tick to the far left does show clearly a file is being shared or not (& the number to far right of course), plus the details of those not being shared greyed out. The Library window works differently though, with just the number signifying shared or not.

I like the 'Locate File' which takes you directly to the file highlighting it on computer (which is better than the Explore option in previous versions which simply took you to the parent folder.) Likewise the 'Locate File' option works well when wanting to locate a specific incomplete file.

Spam filter: showing what's filtered out ... just in case LW gets it wrong. With v4.18 we can view them at bottom of search results,.

I think one problem I'm having is that I just discovered there is an OK button in preferences but it does not always show (window not reaching that far.) The OK button shows in the Library preferences after a LW restart, but as soon as I switch to another option window or close preferences, the OK button disappears next time (not always but frequently). I found same problem with OK button showing only initially in other preference windows after a LW restart. OK button never shows in the Super Adv. windows for me. Is this only happening to me out of the OSX users? Yes this is an issue. Whilst LW accepts the change in Super Really Advanced options at the time, it's not saving them after a restart.

No Hits or Uploads columns in Library? I think some people do like to know 'if' their files are being found in searches & uploaded, and if people are having upload issues, perhaps due to their firewall, etc.

I love the column options, however none of the ones I add are saving after I restart LW. Thus have to re-add them, re-size them each time. (You responded to Birdy you may change this.)

I played around with the LW prefs so was able to remove incomplete files manually so it just left my old library to load (the audio files are the slow ones). Still incredibly slow but I wished to see whether the Descriptions created from v.4 were still available. It seems alpha does not read them. I rather need them for many media types: video files, images, audio - aif format, etc. I hope this IS included in future. (Edit: obviously the description tool has not yet been fully implemented.)

Something I am confused about; Removing Scan folders in the Library preferences which shows a cross beside each sub-folder, I'd have imagined would auto stop sharing those files. It does not seem to work that way. After pressing OK button, I go back to p2p network window to find the files still shared, even after restarting LW. I have to manually one by one uncheck each shared file, else select multiples in the Library window & choose unshare. As with images, the best way to unshare large numbers of files & have the library decrease in overall size was SHIFT-click multiple files & choose Remove from Library (which worked fine if in same folder for images, audio didn't matter due to different listing technique).

I realise on the Alpha it says most of the core items are in. I just want to be sure nothing is left out later on. lol

I wlll respond to your previous questions next time. (Had a drive disappear, so was a little side-tracked & unable to supply snapshots.)

As for the gmail option, I tried but wasn't properly connected so not surprised I had a failure in that regard.

[Lord of the Rings]

oops one one gif per post. This shows the cut off preference window.

I think I reduced my shares down to about 1.5 K in no. LW seemed to respond much better. I share 4.5 times that many on my main drive using LW v.4 without issues with multiple days sessions. Sharing over 1 K (initially 3 K) images meant the snapshot images were slowish to load when browsing through them. I reduced no. to more manageable amount.

Preferences: Just my point about the uploads per person.
All others seem fine. Is there no Chat option now? If it is auto-on without option to turn off I would not complain about that. lol

Unless I'm getting confused between programs, did I see a parent control option over preferences settings with password? If yes, that's fantastic! It's been requested for so many years by so many people.

I like that the OOB searching option has been moved to Performance settings (I thought it used to be there once upon a time.)

Is Direct Connect still going to be an option? (since I cannot connect I cannot verify if this is an option or not.)
Also Browse?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

I realise that the alpha is the basic LW core, not everything 'fully' included yet so I'm not sure my comments are all necessary.

No worries -- thanks for taking the time to point things out.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Actually I think people viewing their uploads is more common than you may think. Sure they don't sit there all day watching them lol. But people do view them for various reasons.

It's not that common -- and, if folks want to do it, it's just as easy as it was in the old program. In fact, it's a little easier. Previously you needed to click View -> Show/Hide and enable monitor, then you could view the tab. Now you just need to go to Tools -> Uploads. I'm not sure what the issue here is?

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Being able to set uploads per person is something I liked so one person does not hog all the upload slots. With a large shared library & a wide variety of files I don't wish too many people to be queued up, especially if they only wish one file. eg: I've had same person uploading files from me for over a month, I would not have wanted them to steal all my upload slots & stop others uploading from me.

There is still an implicit uploads per person amount. This option makes less sense with the inclusion of friends, and it's an (arguably) useless knob to expose. So, we cut it and default to a value. (If you're diehard, you can edit limewire.props to change it -- but there shouldn't ever be a need to.)

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Upgrade to Pro pop up window when opening LW: Is it possible to make this simply text with a link on main window instead. The pop up window has caused some users problems for many years. It also loads up slowly on my system (when I have many shares at least).

It loads slowly in LimeWire 5, or LimeWire 4? It is completely different now (although we do need to update some things related to it in LimeWire 5.)

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

I like the option to set the default search type.

Thanks! :-)

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Library column heading options - yes it's changed from Control-click to Command-click (apple key). Just discovered the change. Wondered why it didn't work yesterday. lol But using Command instead of Control key means it arranges the files in the order of the particular heading you clicked; an oversight I think, should probably be changed back to Control key. I 'do' like the changes. Length (& dimensions) is also great for videos & audio files.

Looks like this is a bug -- we're probably looking for "is right mouse button" instead of "is popup trigger" -- Apple had to go and make things confusing here. See https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/LWC-2223 . Glad you like the length & dimension. :-)

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

As for the Description window, I've noticed the year & track boxes are expandable as soon as it finds data. This is good. eg: Year box shrinks if it finds no data, track box expands if it finds a number. Easy to add details too. However, no option to add Description such as Comments.
No add Comments available for any media types. The add Description options seem to have mostly been removed. I believe this has not yet been fully added right? I read a comment to say such.
Appears no way to add description to multiple files at once as of yet. eg: Year or album.

The properties (description) windows are in active development (and already are quite different than what they were in the alpha). Please let us know if these don't carry their weight as we release new versions.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Yes the p2p network with the Tick to the far left does show clearly a file is being shared or not (& the number to far right of course), plus the details of those not being shared greyed out. The Library window works differently though, with just the number signifying shared or not.

Yup, it is different. We're looking at ways of clarifying the information so it's easier to understand just what that random sharing # means. We have some good ideas that should be ready soon.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

I like the 'Locate File' which takes you directly to the file highlighting it on computer (which is better than the Explore option in previous versions which simply took you to the parent folder.) Likewise the 'Locate File' option works well when wanting to locate a specific incomplete file.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Spam filter: showing what's filtered out ... just in case LW gets it wrong. With v4.18 we can view them at bottom of search results,.

They should be visible at the bottom already. Are they not?

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

I think one problem I'm having is that I just discovered there is an OK button in preferences but it does not always show (window not reaching that far.) The OK button shows in the Library preferences after a LW restart, but as soon as I switch to another option window or close preferences, the OK button disappears next time (not always but frequently). I found same problem with OK button showing only initially in other preference windows after a LW restart. OK button never shows in the Super Adv. windows for me. Is this only happening to me out of the OSX users? Yes this is an issue. Whilst LW accepts the change in Super Really Advanced options at the time, it's not saving them after a restart.

Looks like this is a layout issue. See https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/LWC-2224 .

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

No Hits or Uploads columns in Library? I think some people do like to know 'if' their files are being found in searches & uploaded, and if people are having upload issues, perhaps due to their firewall, etc.

Ok, we can add this back as a hidden-by-default column. See https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/LWC-2226 .

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

I love the column options, however none of the ones I add are saving after I restart LW. Thus have to re-add them, re-size them each time. (You responded to Birdy you may change this.)

Yup -- not a maybe -- we definitely are changing this. It'd be awful to have to redo your columns after each launch.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

I played around with the LW prefs so was able to remove incomplete files manually so it just left my old library to load (the audio files are the slow ones). Still incredibly slow but I wished to see whether the Descriptions created from v.4 were still available. It seems alpha does not read them. I rather need them for many media types: video files, images, audio - aif format, etc. I hope this IS included in future. (Edit: obviously the description tool has not yet been fully implemented.)

It _should_ be picking these up already. Can you explain in some more detail what's going wrong? (IE, what you did in 4.x that isn't showing up in 5.x?)

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

Something I am confused about; Removing Scan folders in the Library preferences which shows a cross beside each sub-folder, I'd have imagined would auto stop sharing those files. It does not seem to work that way. After pressing OK button, I go back to p2p network window to find the files still shared, even after restarting LW. I have to manually one by one uncheck each shared file, else select multiples in the Library window & choose unshare. As with images, the best way to unshare large numbers of files & have the library decrease in overall size was SHIFT-click multiple files & choose Remove from Library (which worked fine if in same folder for images, audio didn't matter due to different listing technique).

It _should_ be removing all instances of it from the library. If it doesn't, there's a bug. We did a some work on this already, so it might already be fixed. Let us know if it doesn't improve in future releases.

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings

I realise on the Alpha it says most of the core items are in. I just want to be sure nothing is left out later on. lol

No worries -- thanks for the comments!

Sam